Renault Grand Scenic

Fotos af Akta Graco Duologic/Klippan Kiss 2 i forskellige biler

Bilens størrelse har ingen indflydelse på hvor godt eller skidt en bagudvendt autostol passer ind. det er bilens interiør og de voksne på forsædet der er afgørende. En stor bil er ikke nødvendigvis stor invendigt og en lille bil er ikke nødvendigvis lille indvendig i selve passagerkabinen.

Der kan forekomme fotos af stolen i biler lånt hos en forhandler. Nogle fotos taget hos bilforhandlere inkluderer fotos af mig for at vise benpladsen foran for en 180 cm høj person.

Ingen fotos anvendes uden tilladelse fra familien og bilforhandlerne

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Photos of the Duologic/Klippan Kiss 2 in various cars

The size of the car has no influence on how much comfort a rearfacing seat takes away in front. The adults in the front seats and the car interior are the determining factors. A large car might not have heaps of room in the passenger area. A small car can have good room for a rearfacing seat
Some photos are taken at car dealerships.

Some of the photos taken at car dealships include “Yours Truely” in order to give a better indication for the leg space for a 180 cm tall person. That is 5ft 11″.

Photos are used with kind permission from parents and car dealerships.

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Renault Grand Scenic

OBS særlige forholdsregler! Bilen har rum i gulvet bag forsæderne. 

Denne familie skulle bruge en ny autostol til deres datter på 10 måneder og ca 78 cm lang. Hun kunne sidde selv. Ønsket var en isofix stol grundet den nemmere montering. Begge forældre var omkring 180 cm høje – faderen måske lidt mere.

Grand Scenic er en dejlig rummelig familiebil. Den har tre fulde sæder bagi, med mulighed for at rykke disse frem og tilbage. Bilen har isofix på alle tre bagsæder. Isofixet i bilen er rigtig nemt at komme til. Det er inde i selve sædehynden lige i revenen mellem ryglæn og sæde. Dermed er isofixet sat højt oppe og således er der ingen problemer med hældningen i bilen.

Bilen har dog et problem, som er de rum der findes i gulvet mellem de yderste bagsæder og forsæderne. Disse er godt gemt af vejen under en lang gulvmåtte og et låg. Det er nødvendigt at fylde disse rum ud – gerne med det som autostolsproducenten selv anbefaler med mindre at støttebenet kan nå helt ned til stålbunden. Se endvidere indlægget om Gulvrum. Støttebenene på nogle isofix autostole vil helt misse disse rum hvorfor disse forholdsregler ikke er nødvendige for dem. Støtteben kan gå igennem lågene i en kollision, med mindre rummene fyldes ud eller benet kan nå bilens stålbund. Der ud over er det her vigtigt at autostolen får støtte af forsædet for at lindre trykket på bilens bund.

Ingen problemer med monteringen bortset fra at støttebenet ikke kunne nå bunden af gulvrummet. Det ville ikke have hjulpet at rykke bagsædet tilbage. Det svævede flere cm over bunden. Heldigvis har Klippan anbefalinger til udfylning af gulvrum. Krydsfinér og styrodur er et par af dem også låget ovenpå er et par af dem som er nemme at komme til i byggemarkeder.

Det var nemt at spænde datteren forsvarligt fast i stolen. Hun brugte selehul 2 og havde oceaner af plads at vokse på.

Der var ikke helt plads nok foran. Men stolen kan i så fald bare monteres i midten af bilen i stedet for. Her forsvinder problemet med gulvrummet også.

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 English

ATTENTION! Special precautions due to underfloor storage rooms

This family were looking for the next car seat for their 10 month-old and app 78 cm tall daughter. She was able to sit unassisted. They wanted isofix due to the easy installation. Both parents were app 180 cm tall – the father perhaps a bit taller.

The Grand Scenic is a lovely roomy family car. It has three full seats in the back that can be rolled forwards and backwards. This car has isofix in all three backseats that is very easy to get to as it is positioned in the seat cushion in the gap between the seat and the backrest resulting in a good position of all rearfacing car seats.

The car does have one issue tough, which is the underfloor storage compartments that you´ll find well-hidden under a big floor mat as well as a lid and right between the outer backseats and the front seats. It is necessary to fill these compartments in order to spread crashloads evenly across the room and the lid – preferably with materials that are approved for this by the car seat manufacturer. Filling is necessary in cases where the footprop cannot reach the solid steel bottom of the car OR completely misses the room. Otherwise the footprops can penetrate the lid leaving the seat unstable especially in cases where it is not supported by the front seat. Having contact with the front seat has several safety advantages. Reducing the loads on the steel bottom, compartment lids etc of the car is one of them. See the entry Underfloor storage compartments.

No issues with the installation apart from the underfloor storage compartment. The footprop could not recach the steel bottom. It stopped several cm from it. Rolling the backseat further backwards would not have helped. Luckily Klippan has several solutions for filling the compartments such as plywood and styrodur and the lid on top of that. Both easierly obtainable from shops.

Fastening their little girl safely was easy. She used the 2nd harness slots with plenty of growing room left in the seat.

There wasn´t quite room enough for the parents in front. But it is possible to install the seat in the centre backseat instead. This would remove trouble with underfloor storage compartments as well.

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