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Fotos af Besafe Izi Kid X1 Isofix i forskellige bilmodeller

Bilens størrelse har ingen indflydelse på hvor godt eller skidt en bagudvendt autostol passer ind. det er bilens interiør og de voksne på forsædet der er afgørende. En stor bil er ikke nødvendigvis stor invendigt og en lille bil er ikke nødvendigvis lille indvendig i selve passagerkabinen.

Der kan forekomme fotos af stolen i biler lånt hos en forhandler. Nogle fotos taget hos bilforhandlere inkluderer fotos af mig for at vise benpladsen foran for en 180 cm høj person.

Ingen fotos anvendes uden tilladelse fra familien og bilforhandlerne.

Photos of the seat in various cars.

The size of the car has no influence on how much comfort a rearfacing seat takes away in front. The adults in the front seats and the car interior are the determining factors. A large car might not have heaps of room in the passenger area. A small car can have good room for a rearfacing seat

Some of the photos taken at car dealships include “Yours Truely” in order to give a better indication for the leg space for a 180 cm tall person. That is 5ft 11″.

 Photos are used with kind permission from parents and car dealerships.

Saab 9-3

Familien skulle bruge to autostole til deres tvillinger. De havde to biler: En VW Passat st fra 2001 og en Saab 9-3. Saaben var med til afprøvningen, da det var den bil de brugte mest. Det var uvidst om Passaten havde isofix, men VW var iblandt de allerførste til at montere systemet i deres biler daterende tilbage til slutningen af 1990erne, men UDEN at markere det. Saaben derimod havde markeringerne på sæderne.

Ud over isofixsystemet havde Saaben også såkaldte Eyelets/Tether loops fabriksmonteret på forsæde skinnerne. Disse er specifikt til montering af forankringsseler til de selemonterede bagudvendte autostole.

Isofix-systemet i Saab sad meget dybt. For at lette monteringen af isofix stole kan det være nødvendigt at bruge kapslerne der følger med stolene ved køb til at blotte dem og lette adgangen til dem.

Pigerne kunne sidde selv og vejede 10 kg.

Stolene blev afprøvet bag førersædet, da der er mindst plads til den voksne foran her end bag passagersædet.

Besafen var rigtig nem at montere med isofix eftersom dens isofix arme låser. Pladsbehovet var rigtig fint og hvilestillingen ligeså. Tvillingerne kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i den.

English

This family needed two seats for their twins. They had two cars: One VW Passat estate 2001 and a Saab 9-3 . estate. The Saab was brought along for the test fitting because this is the car that they use the most. It was unknown wether or not the Passat had  isofix. But VW was among the first to install the system into their cars in the late 1990s. They would not mark the seats with isofix labels back then. The Saab on the other hand had the labels in place.

Besides the isofix points on the two outer rearseats, the Saab was also equipted with so-called eyelets – also referred to as tether loops preinstalled on the front seat runners. These are for installing  belted rearfacing car seats´ tether straps.

The isofix system was potioned very deep in this car. So in order to make the installation of isofix seats easier, the plastic caps that come with the seats were attached to the isofix system in the car in order to expose them.

The girls were able to sit unassisted and weighed 10 kg.

The seats were tested behind the driver´s seat as there is less room fornt to back here than behind the front passenger seat.

The Besafe was a piece of cake to install due to the locking isofix arms. Space requirements were excellent and so was the recline position, The twins could be safe secured in it.

 

Opel Vectra 2007/Vauxhall Vectra

Isofix eftermonteret – sad dybt inde. Pige 11 måneder og 9 kg. Forældre  var ca 165-175 cm høje. Pigen havde stadig god plads i babystolen. Afprøvning bag førersædet. 

Den var nem at montere selvom bøjlerne sad dybt. Hældning i bilen var god og plads foran var der rigelig af. Vi drøftede 25 cm reglen som Besafe har når der ikke kan opnås kontakt med forsædet.

Datteren kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i stolen.

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 English

Isofix system was placed very deeply. The daughter was 11 months old and weighed 9 kg. The parents were app 165-170 cm tall. The daughter still had good room left to grow in her infant carrier. Test installation behind the driver.

It was easy to install even tough the brackets were placed deep. Recline angle was fine and space in front was plentyfull. We discussed the 25 cm distance rule that Besafe have for their seat if contact with the front seat is not possible.

The daughter could be safely fastend in the seat.

 

Renault Grand Scenic

Warning!

OBS! Særlige forholdsregler:Bilen har rum i gulvet bag førersæderne

Denne familie skulle bruge en ny autostol til deres datter på 10 måneder og ca 78 cm lang. Hun kunne sidde selv. Ønsket var en isofix stol grundet den nemmere montering. Begge forældre var omkring 180 cm høje – faderen måske lidt mere. 

Grand Scenic er en dejlig rummelig familiebil. Den har tre fulde sæder bagi, med mulighed for at rykke disse frem og tilbage. Bilen har isofix på alle tre bagsæder. Isofixet i bilen er rigtig nemt at komme til. Det er inde i selve sædehynden lige i revenen mellem ryglæn og sæde. Dermed er isofixet sat højt oppe og således er der ingen problemer med hældningen i bilen.

Bilen har dog et problem, som er de rum der findes i gulvet mellem de yderste bagsæder og forsæderne. Disse er godt gemt af vejen under en lang gulvmåtte og et låg. Det er nødvendigt at fylde disse rum ud – gerne med det som autostolsproducenten selv anbefaler med mindre at støttebenet kan nå helt ned til stålbunden. Se endvidere indlægget om Gulvrum. Støttebenene på nogle isofix autostole vil helt misse disse rum hvorfor disse forholdsregler ikke er nødvendige for dem. Støtteben kan gå igennem lågene i en kollision, med mindre rummene fyldes ud eller benet kan nå bilens stålbund. Der ud over er det her vigtigt at autostolen får støtte af forsædet for at lindre trykket på bilens bund.

Det var nemt nok at klikke stolen fast I bilen med isofix. Støttebenet missede helt gulvrummet. Men støttebenet kunne ikke placeres stabilt på gulvet grundet udformningen af det (se foto 3). Støttebenet var for bredt til at det kunne sættes ned i gulvrummet. Set i bakspejlet havde det nok hjulpet  vinkle støttebenet længere ind til autostolen. Det skal bare stå lige ned. Det havde løst problemet med støttebenet.

Derfor kørte jeg dagen efter til Renault i Næstved for at afprøve stolen på ny. Denne gang bag passagersædet med bagsædet rullet helt tilbage. Ganske rigtigt kunne støttebenet få fuld støtte (se foto 4). Besafe har løsningsforslag til hvad gulvrum kan fyldes med: Styrodur og så låget ovenpå. Dette er nødvendigt.

Der var brug for Besafe kilen på frontbøjlen da der ellers ville have været en for stor afstand mellem bøjle og ryglænet. Bøjlen kørte mere opad end ind i bagsædets ryglæn, hvilket resulterede i den øgede afstand som skulle lukkes af.

Datteren kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i stolen.

Pladsbehovet bag passagersædet var godt for en 180 cm lang passager som mig. Ville have været helt fin på midtersædet også.

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English

Warning!

Special precautions! This car has underfloor storage boxes

This family were looking for the next car seat for their 10 month-old and app 78 cm tall daughter. She was able to sit unassisted. They wanted isofix due to the easy installation. Both parents were app 180 cm tall – the father perhaps a bit taller.

The Grand Scenic is a lovely roomy family car. It has three full seats in the back that can be rolled forwards and backwards. This car has isofix in all three backseats that is very easy to get to as it is positioned in the seat cushion in the gap between the seat and the backrest resulting in a good position of all rearfacing car seats.

The car does have one issue tough, which is the underfloor storage compartments that you´ll find well-hidden under a big floor mat as well as a lid and right between the outer backseats and the front seats. It is necessary to fill these compartments in order to spread crashloads evenly across the room and the lid – preferably with materials that are approved for this by the car seat manufacturer. Filling is necessary in cases where the footprop cannot reach the solid steel bottom of the car OR completely misses the room. Otherwise the footprops can penetrate the lid leaving the seat unstable especially in cases where it is not supported by the front seat. Having contact with the front seat has several safety advantages. Reducing the loads on the steel bottom, compartment lids etc of the car is one of them. See the entry Underfloor storage compartments.

Clicking the seat onto the isofix points in the car was easy enough. The footprop missed the storage compartment completely. However it was unstable on the footwell of the car (see photo  3). Unfortunately I did not think about moving the footprop futher towards the car seat. The footprop would then have been placed on the storage compartment, which Besafe has a solution for: filling with styrodur and the lid on top of that. This would have solved the footwell/footprop issue. A 90 degree angle is enough angle.

Therefore I decided to take the seat for a second testing in this car the following day at the local Renault dealership In Næstved. This time the seat was tested behind the passenger seat with the rear seat rolled all the way back. This did give a whole different result on the footprop. It got full support on the floor (see photo 4).

The Besafe wedge was needed for the front brace as it racthed upwards rather than into the backrest of the seat in the car – resulting in a considerable gap between the front brace and the seatback. These gaps need to be closed.

The little girl could be safely fastend in the Besafe seat.

Space requirements were measured behind the passenger seat was fine for my 180 cm. It would have been fine in the centre rear seat as well.

 

Opel Corsa 2003/Vauxhall

Familien havde brug for en autostol til deres søn på 10 måneder. Vi slog to fluer med ét smæk ved afprøvning bag førersædet, således at man vidste  hvilken en der ville passe bag begge forsæder. Er der plads bag førersædet, er der også plads bag passagersædet. Sådan er det. Familien var mest til isofix-montering. Men var også åben for selemonterede. Så vi lagde ud med isofix-stolene.

Isofix-systemet sidder langt fremme i denne bil, men som i en andre biler kan det være vanskeligt at få nogle autostole til at hægte sig på da, selve bilsædet dækker over dem og skal skilles ad. Der følger et sæt isofix-guides med isofix-stole som man sætter på isofixbeslagene i bilen for blotte dem og lette adgangen til dem og monteringen af stolen. Men dette var ikke muligt i denne bil, da isofixbeslagene i bilen buer lidt opad og dermed giver for lidt plads til stolens isofix-arme. Det lykkedes heldigvis uden.

Monteringen af stolen bød ikke på de store udfordringer.

Pladsbehovet var desværre for stort. Forsædet måtte helt frem på skinnerne. Hvorved der ikke var plads nok til begge forældre. Far målte godt 180 cm.

Hældningen i bilen var god.

Sønnen kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i bilen i de nederste selehuller.

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 English

This family needed a cars eat for their 10 month old son. There is allways less room for the driver than the passenger, due to the car pedals, steeringwheel etc. They wanted to know which seat would fit behind the driver too for future reference. So we killed two birds with one stone and installed each seat behind the driver. They preferred isofix, but belted seats were not out of the question. So we started with the isofix seats.

The isofix bars in this car are placed far forwards. However, they are completely covered by the seat cushions, which can make installation of some isofix seats difficult. All isofix seats come with a pair of isofix guides that latch on to the isofix bars in the car and completely uncovers them, keeping the installation of isofix seats free of problems. Exactly this is not possible in this car as the isofix bars turn a bit upwards which creates too little room for the isofix arms on the child car seat itself to pass though and hook on to those in the car. Thankfully we succeeded without them.

The installation was problem-free.

Space requirement was sadly too big. The front seat had to go right forwards leaving too little space there for both parents. The father was app 180 cm tall.

Recline angle was good.

The son could be safely secured in the car seat using the lowest harness slots.

 

Toyota Corolla Verso

Familien havde brug for en autostol til deres 80 cm, 11 kg og 17 måneder gamle søn. Sønnen havde stadig god plads i sin Britax Babysafe. Familien foretrak isofix, da dette er nemmere. Vi fik dog en autostol ind med selemontering.

Faderen var 180 cm høj og moderen 160 cm høj. Stolene blev alle monteret bag førersædet pga der er mindre plads der end på passagersædet grundet bilens pedaler, rat osv. De blev alle afprøvet i hvilestilling, da der er forskel på pladsbehovet oprejst vs. Hvilestilling med alle de afprøvede modeller.

Selvfølgelig var det nemt at montere Besafen med isofix. Det var ingen sag.

Pladsbehovet i bilen var okay for faderen.

Hældningen på stolen var fin.

Drengen kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i stolen (Besafe Izi Kid X3) og han havde masser af plads at vokse på i den.

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English

This family needed a bigger seat for their 80 cm, 11 kg and 17 month old son. The son had some growingroom left in his Britax Babysafe car seat. The family preferred isofix because this is easier. We did however, install one car seat with the seatbelt.

The father was 180 cm tall and the mother was 160 cm tall. All the seats were tried behind the driver´s seat as there is les space there due to the pedals and the steering wheel there. They were all installed in sleep position to estimate spacerequirements as the sleep position in all the seats used tends to be greater than upright position.

The installation went smoothly as usual. There was no problem at all.

Space requirements in the car were sufficient for the father.

Recline angle was good

The boy could be safely secured in the seat (Besafe Izi kid X3) and had lots of growing room in the seat.

 

VW Golf 2006

Forældrene var på udkig efter den næste størrelse autostol til deres 13 måneder gamle, 10 kg og 80 cm lange datter. Far er 182 cm og mor er 172 cm. De skiftes til at køre bilen. Autostolene er derfor kun blevet afprøvet bag førersædet. De kører mest korte ture i bilen. Planen er at udskifte VW Golfen ud med en Skoda Octavia St. inden ret længe. Heldigvis har Skoda Octavia St. været i mine hænder ved et kundebesøg i Odense ikke ret lang tid siden.

Trods sine 80 cm havde datteren stadig god plads i sin Römer Babysafe SHR.

Monteringen var som vanlig ikke noget problem. Hældningen på stolen var rigitg god – better than Max-Fix.

Benpladsen foran var okay for begge forældre, men ikke så god som med Max-Fix. Førersædet blev justeret lidt i højden for at afhjælpe pladsproblemer foran.

Udsynet gennem bagruden blev testet og der var ingen problemer, hvilket der typisk ikke er for bagudvendte autostole.

Datteren havde masser af plads at vokse på i den.

Benpladsen for datteren i BeSafeen var bedre end Max-Fix. Men børn er meget fleksible og kan sidde i stillinger vi voksne for længst har glemt. Dette være sig bla. Skrædderstilling. Langt de fleste børn sidder og ligger fortrineligt med benene bøjede.

Datteren kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i begge Besafe-stolene.

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English

These parents were looking for the next size up in car seat for their 13 month-old, 10 kg and 80 cm long daughter. The father is 182 cm tall and the mother is 172 cm tall. Both drive the car. The journeys in the car are mostly very short. The car seats have been test fitted behind the driver´s seat for this reason. They are planning on selling the Golf and buy a Skoda Octavia estate soon. Luckily I have seen the Octavia estate at a very recent test fitting visit in Odense.

Despite her 80 cm this little girl still had good room to grow in her Britax/Römer babysafe SHR.

The installation went smoothly as it allways does. The recline in the seat was really good – better than the Max-Fix.

Legspace in front was doable for both parents, but not as good as it was with the Max-Fix. The height adjustment mechanism in the front seat was used to prevent space problems there.

Visiablity through the backscreen in  the car was testet too, and there was no problems with this at all. Good visiability is not a problem in rearfacing car seats.

The daughter had lots of room to grow in the Max-Fix.

Legroom for the daughter was great and better than the Max-Fix. However, children are VERY flexiable and have no trouble sitting in positions that grown-ups have forgotten about a long time ago. Children sit comfortably with their legs criss-crossed most of the time.

The daughter could be safely fastend with the 5-point harness in both Besafe seats.

 

Hyundai i30 St

Familien havde tvillinger så der var brug for to bagudvendte autostole. Vi monterede bag førersædet eftersom der her vil være mindre plads foran grundet ratstamme og pedalerne end på passagersædet. Vi afprøvede først alle isofixstolene i bilen og tilsidst end er kunne monteres med isofix og sikkerhedsselen. 

Bagsæderne i Hyundai i30 er flade, så det var ikke et problem at få en fornuftig hældning på stolene.

Besafe izi Kid fyldte en anelse for meget. Tvillingernes far satte sig ind foran fordi han var den højeste med sine 182 cm.

Selve monteringen af stolen var helt problemfrit. Dog sidder frontbøjlen for langt fra bagsædet med ca 5 cm afstand i toppen (billed 4 ). Dette problem kan dog løses med en kile lavet af Besafe designet til formålet at lukke sådan et mellemrum og skabe mere stabilitet (foto 6 ).

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VW UP 2012

Ingen plads til en voksen foran. Forsædet måtte helt frem på skinnerne.

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English

No space in front for an adult person at all. The front seat had to go right forwards.

 

Volvo V60

Stolen blev monteret bag førersædet i denne bil. Desværre var pladsbehovet alt for stort til netop disse forældre som målte ca 182-190 cm i højden. Stolen havde sikkert været bedre for en mindre person og evt. bag passagersædet. Den var nem at montere. Dette forældrepar ønskede stolen skulle være bag føreren.

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English

The seat was installed behind driver in this car. Unfortunately spacerequirement was much too big for this pair of parents. Height of the parents was app 182-190 cm. The seat would be have been fine for smaller persons and eventually behind the passenger seat. The installation was very easy. This pair of parents wanted the seat behind driver.

 

Skoda Superb

Besafe Izi Kid er her monteret bag førersædet med isofix. Der er rigtig god plads til 185 cm lang person foran – måske mere. Da bagsæderne i Skoda Superb hælder lidt mere end  normalt er det godt at finde en bagudvendt autostol med en god hældning. Besafen kan sidde meget lodret i biler med skrånende bagsæder. Måden at komme omkring det på er at presse ned på toppen af stolen, låse støttebenet og derefter køre frontbøjlen ind i bagsædets ryglæn. Til helt små babyer er Besafen ikke så god som Akta Graco Duologic 2/KISS i hældningen. Dette ses på fotos 5-7.

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English 

The Besafe Izi Kid is mounted with isofix behind the driver´s seat. Due to the slope in the backseats in the Skoda Superb, finding a rearfacing car seat with a good recline position is important. The Besafe can be very upright in these cars. There is a solution that might help resolve this issue, which is advicable for this car. Press down on the top of the seat, lock the supportleg and drive th front brace into the backrest of the backseat is something worth trying. This seat might be less suitable than the Duologic 2/KISS car seat for very young babies as the recline isn´t quite as good. This is shown in photos 5-7

 

Mitsubishi Colt 3-dørs/3-door

Med bagæderne kørt helt tilbage var det muligt at få Besafen ind i bilen samt levere nok komfort foran til to høje forældre. På billedet er bagæderne ikke kørt tilbage. Besafen var det bedste valg her.

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English

The Besafe isofix prooved to be the best choice when the backseat row was rolled all the way back. That way it provided good comfort for the tall parents in front.

 

Audi A4 st 2004/Estate

We fandt isofix på begge ydersæder bagi samt forsædet. Der var ingen isofix-mærkater i bilen. Besafe leverede fin benplads til den ca. 173 cm høje forsæde passager. Hældningen på bagsæderne er god.

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 English

We found isofix on both outboard backseats as well as the front passenger seat. There were no isofix-indicators in this car. The Besafe gave fine legroom for the app. 5ft 8″ tall front seat passenger. Recline of the backseats are good in this car.

 

Peugeot 208 hatchback 2012

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Peugeot 307SW: Tre på tværs/Three across

Chevrolet Lacitte 2006

Toyota Avensis 2010

 
  

Chevolet Cruze 2010

Honda Civic Sport 2010

VW Polo 2010

Fiat Punto Evo 2010

Ford Mondeo St/Estate 2010

Renault Megane 2011

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