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Fotos af Klippan Triofix & Triofix Recline i forskellige biler.
Bilens størrelse har ingen indflydelse på hvor bilens interiør og de voksne på forsædet der er afgørende. En stor bil er ikke nødvendigvis stor invendigt og en lille bil er ikke nødvendigvis lille indvendig i selve passagerkabinen.godt eller skidt en bagudvendt autostol passer ind. det er .
Der kan forekomme fotos af stolen i biler lånt hos en forhandler. Nogle fotos taget hos bilforhandlere inkluderer fotos af mig for at vise benpladsen foran for en 180 cm høj person.
Ingen fotos anvendes uden tilladelse fra familien og bilforhandlerne.
1ste bil er en Peugeot 307SW. Bilen er ikke på Kidzofix billiste. Men stolen kan monteres helt fast i bilen. Produktionen af 307SW stoppede i sommeren 2008..

Photos of the Klippan Triofix Recline in various cars

The size of the car has no influence on how much comfort a rearfacing seat takes away in front. The adults in the front seats and the car interior are the determining factors. A large car might not have heaps of room in the passenger area. A small car can have good room for a rearfacing seat.
Some photos are taken at car dealerships. Some of the photos taken at car dealships include “Yours Truely” in order to give a better indication for the leg space for a 180 cm tall person. That is 5ft 11″. 
Photos are used with kind permission from parents and car dealerships.

Klippan Triofix Recline:

Volvo V50

Far og mor skulle bruge en bagudvendt autostol til deres datter på 1½ år. De havde overtaget en gammel Rømer fremadvendt autostol til selemontering, men var af ganske gode grunde ikke trygge ved den. Den havde adskellige år på bagen, var blevet brugt til to børn. 5-Punktsselen i den var mølædt og nogle steder endda laset og ødelagt. Dertil var de ikke sikre på om monteringen af den var god nok. Det var den heller ikke, men det blev hurtigt rettet inden afgang herfra efter endt session. Ligeså blev fastspændningen af barnet. De havde lige fået eftermonteret isofix i bilen og isofixet sat let tilgængeligt i bilen. Det kunne vi lige så godt benytte os af. De værdsatte barnets komfort utrolig højt af forståelige årsager, for de havde en meget bestemt lille dame med. Sæderne i bilen hælder så en autostol med en god hvileposition var at foretrække.

Far: ca 185 cm

Mor_ ca 175 cm

 

Britax Max-Fix 2

Akta Graco Duologic 2

Klippan Triofix

Maxi Cosi Mobi

Blev afprøvet

Triofix blev monteret med distancekilen i brug for bedre benplads. Pladsbehov var fint for alle parter.

Volvo V50Volvo V50 klippan triofix 1Volvo V50 klippan triofix 2Volvo V50 klippan triofix 3Volvo V50 klippan triofix 4

English

Father and mother wanted a rearfacing car seat for their 1½ year-old daughter. They had gotten a used forward facing Britax belt mounted seat , but weren´t comfortable using it for very good reasons. It was old and had been used for 2 children before. The 5-point harness was moulded and very worn out/defected in several places. They weren´t sure that they had fitted it correctly on top of that. They were right, it wasn´t fitted correctly, but that was easierly corrected before they left after the session was over, They were also  instructed on how to secure her correctly in it.. They had just had isofix installed into the car and it was easierly accessable so there was no reason not to use it. They preferred a seat with good legroom for the child, and rightfully so because they had a little strongwilled girl. The seats in the car sloped a bit so a cars eat with good recline position was much preferred.

Father: app 6ft 1″ tall

Mother: app 5ft 9″ tall

 

Britax Max-Fix 2

Akta Graco Duologic 2

Klippan Triofix

Maxi Cosi Mobi

were tested today

The Triofix was installed with the distance vedge  to get better legroom for the child. Space requirements were fine for everybody.

Toyota Avensis 2011 st.

Far: 180 cm

Mor: 165 cm.

Datter: 1 år, vokset ud af sin babystol med højden, sidder selv ca 80 cm lang.

Her var isofix den bedste løsning. Far var musiker og skulle tit transportere sine instrumenter i bilen. Dette ville kræve en del af- og i-montering af autostolen. Heldigvis var var isofixbøjlerne i denne bil meget let tilgængelige, og derfor var det enormt nemt at sætte alle isofixstolene i bilen. Alligevel blev to selemonterede autostole afprøvet også. dernæst skulle autostolen helst have hvilefunkrion da familien tit tog på langtur til Jylland og datteren ville for det meste sove da i bilen på disse ture. Den skulle være nem at indstille i hvilestilling, men dette var ikke et et krav. Sæderne i bilen har en lille hældning, men ikke noget nævnværdigt. Alle stolene kunne få en fornuftig hældning i bilen. Sikkerhedsselerne i denne Avensis havde Imodsætning til den anden Avensis-bil det almindelige Emergency Locking System.

Følgende autostole blev afprøvet:

Klippan Triofix Recline

Akta Graco Duologic 2/Klippan Kiss 2

Besafe Izi Plus (kunne ikke monteres da sikkerhedsselen var for kort)

Besafe Izi Kid X3

Britax Max-Fix 2

Britax Dualfix

Fair G 0/1/Bimbofix (stolen kunne ikke låses fast på på basen)

Triofix ses på disse billeder i både hvileposition og oprejst position. Stolen kan anvendes med en særlig distanceklods designet til stolen for at øge benpladsen for ældre børn. Her ses den uden klodsen. Pladsbehovet var lige ok i hvilestilling og ret fin i oprejst stilling.

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English

Father: 5’11”

Mother: app 5’5”

Daughter: 1 year, outgrown babyseat by height, sitting unassisted and app 80 cm tall.

Isofix was the best solution for this family. The father was a musician and needed to be able to transport his instruments in the car quite often with the back seats down. So the car seat would have to be installed and removed from the car often. Luckily the isofix system was very easierly accessable in this particular car, making the installation of all the isofix seats very easy. Despite this, two seatbelt mounted seats were also tested in this car. The family would often go on long road trips to Jutland, and their daughter would normally sleep on those long trips, so a seat with recline position was needed. It would be best if the position could be altered with the seat in the car, but this was not a must-have. The seats in this car were slightly sloped but nothing worth digging further into. The Avensis specimen had the Emergency Locking Seatbelt System unlike the other Avensis car.

The following seats were tested:

Følgende autostole blev afprøvet:

Klippan Triofix Recline

Akta Graco Duologic 2/Klippan Kiss 2

Besafe Izi Plus (seatbelt was too short)

Besafe Izi Kid X3

Britax Max-Fix 2

Britax Dualfix

Fair G 0/1/Bimbofix (the seat itself could not lock on to the base unit)

Triofix was installed in both reclined and upright positions. The cars eat can be used with a specially designed distance vegde to increase the legroom for older children. The distance vedge was not used today. Space requirements were just ok in reclined position and absolutely fine in the upright position

Hyundai Getz 

Mor: 180 cm

Far: 190 cm

Søn: 80 cm, 1 år og 12 kg.

Sønnen var vokset ud af sin babystol med højden og der var øjeblikkelig brug for et skift af autostol. Han var desuden begyndt at kede sig jævnt meget i bilen. En babystol byder ikke på det store panoramaudsigt i modsætning til de større bagudvendte. Familien blev også foreslået at sætte et spejl op på hovedstøtten så de kunne se ham og han kunne se dem.

Bilen bød ikke på meget plads indvendigt, og da begge forældre er høje og skiftes til at køre skulle der en meget kompakt autostol til bag passagersædet.

Stole som blev afprøvet i bilen var:

Klippan Triofix

Britax Hiway 2

Britax Max-Fix 2

Britax Dualfix

Fair G/Bimbofix

 

At isofix ikke altid er en nem måde at montere en autostol på og at systemet ikke altid er det nemmeste og bedste af den grund var denne bil et godt bevis på. Problemet var de to selespænder hvor bilproducenten lige så flot havde placeret isofixbøjlen længst inde mod midten bagved  og imellem disse. Der ud over var polstringen på sædet hård. det betyder at nogle isofixstole vil være umulige at montere og andre rigtig svære.

Dog var det Klippan Tripofix der løb af med sejren her. Den var forholdsvis nem at få monteret og den levende plads til både mor og temmelig sikkert også lige akurat faderen. Sønnen kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i den i nederste selehul. Stolen er her monteret i oprejst stilling.

Hyundai GetzHyundai Getz Klippan Triofix 1Hyundai Getz Klippan Triofix 2Hyundai Getz Klippan Triofix 3Hyundai Getz Klippan Triofix 4

 

English

Mother: 180 cm (5’11”)

Father: 190 cm (6’4″)

Son: 80 cm, 1 year, 12 kg.

There was an urgent need for a new and bigger seat for this boy as he had outgrown his infant carrier by height. He also seemed bored. Infant carriers are not famous for leaving a good view out of the windows, contrary to the bigger rearfacing car seats. The family was informd that they could buy a mirror to put up on the head support so he would be ablle to see them and they would be able to see him.

 

This car does not offer a lot of room inside. Considering this as well as the heifght of both parents and their need to take turns driving the car., the new seat had to go behind the front passenger seat.

The following seats were tested in the car:

Klippan Triofix

Britax Hiway 2

Britax Max-Fix 2

Britax Dualfix

Fair G/Bimbofix

This particular car is solid proof that isofix isn´t allways the easiest way of installing a car seat, and therefore not allways the best choice. The main issue here was that the car manufactorer had so profoundly decided to install the isofix system behind as well as between the two seatbelt buckles in the middle of the car. That and the hard seat upholstery will render some isofix seats impossible or very difficult to install into this car.

Yet, the Klippan Triofix was the best choice for this family, as it was easy to install despite everything. It  left sufficient room for the mother and me and most likely also the father. The son could be safely secured in it in the first harness slots. The seat was mounted in the upright position

Ford Focus st

Familien ønskede en bagudvendt autostol til deres datter. Den skulle stå bag passagersædet.

Far: 183 cm

Mor: 173 cm

Datter: 1 år og 12 kg, 80 cm

Bilen havde ikke isofix, så det blev til de selemonterede modeller samt en enkelt som kunne monteres på begge måder. Ønsket var at barnet skulle vende bagud så længe som muligt og til netop det er en ren selemonteret model det bedste valg da de (pånær en model)går til 25 kg.

De ønskede en autostol som nemt kunne lægges ned i hvilestilling. Men dette var ikke et absolut must eftersom datteren ikke har tendens til at falde i søvn i bilen.

Bagsæderne i bilen hælder ikke, så det var ikke nødvendigt at fokusere så meget på stolenes hældning mht, det.

Forankringsselerne kunne monteres ind i selve forsædet. Der ud over kunne de monteres i bilens forsædeskinner. Her blev det til forsædeskinnerne fordi forældre ofte skiftes til at køre.

Følgende autostole blev afprøvet:

Maxi Cosi Mobi

Britax Maxway

Klippan Triofix Recline

 

Denne model er typisk et godt valg til viler med begrænset plads som  denne bil. Den var nem at montere med sikkerhedsselen. Der skal ikke anvendes forankringsseler til den, da den har frontbøjle . Stolen er godkendt til 18 kg, men producenten tillader anvendelse bagudvendt til 20 kg.

Hvilepositionen skal indstilles inden stolen klikkes på basen. Så ikke såå nemt igen.

Den blev monteret i hvileposition, og pladsbehovet var for stort for begge forældres vedkommende i denne position. Det var okay i oprejst position.

Ydermere ville det ikke være muligt at anvende basen fremadvendt overhovedet grundet eftersom bilen ikke har isofix og den skal monteres med sikkerhedsselen. Monteringen fremadvendt er en smule anderledes end bagudvendt og da stolen altid roterer lidt bagover når den klikkes på basen ville den støde på bagsædets ryglæn og slet ikke klikke sig på. Fremadvendt med base ville kun have været mulig med isofixmontering.

Ford Focus st gammel model triofix 1Ford Focus st gammel model triofix 2Ford Focus st gammel model triofix 3Ford Focus st gammel model triofix 4

English

The family needed a new and bigger rearfacing car seat for their daughter. They wanted it placed behind the front passenger seat

Father: 183 cm.

Mother: 173 cm.

Daughter: 1 year, 12 kg and 80 cm.

There was no isofix in this car. So belted seats were tested. Only one seat offered both installation options. They wanted their daughter to remain rearfacing for as long as possible and belted seats are the best choice for this kargely due to their higher weight limit to 25 kg except one seat.

They also wanted a seat with easy adjustable recline position mechanism. However, this was not an absolute must have since their daughter generally did not sleep in the car.

Due to the flat backseats there was no need to worry about the inclination of the rearfacing seats we put inthere.

The tether straps could be installed in either the front seats or the front seat rails. The front seat rails were the best choice for this family since both parents would drive the car which would require rearranging the position the front passenger seat often.

The following seats were tested:

Maxi Cosi Mobi

Britax Maxway

Klippan Triofix Recline

 

This seat is usually a good choice for cars with limited space as this car. It was easy to installed with the seatbelt. It does not require tether straps since it has a front brace. The seat is approved to 18 kg, but the manufacturer says it is okay to use it rearfacing to 20 kg.

Recline position must be set before the seat is clicked on to the base unit. So not so easierly adjustable.

It was installed in the reclined position, and space requirements was too big for both parents in this position. This was okay in the upright position.

Also, it would not be possible to install it with the base unit forwardfacing at all, since the base must be belted in. The installation forwardfacing on the base is a bit different than rearfacing. The seat rotates backwards when it clicks onto to the base, so  it would hit the backrest of the backseat and not hook onto the base unit at all. Forward facing with the base would have been a possibility in this car if it had isofix .

 VW Touran

Familien på 4 havde brug for en ny autostol til det mindste medlem på 10 kg. De ønskede en isofix-model som kunne være bag førersædet i hvileposition.

Far: 190 cm

Mor: 160 cm

VW Touran har helt lige bagsæder hvilket betyder vi ikke behøvede at vurdere hældning på stolene.

En man skal være særligt opmærksom på med en bil som VW Touran er at der er opbevaringsrum i gulvet mellem de yderste bagsæder og forsæderne. Støttebenene kan brage igennem låget på disse rum. Man kan reducere den risiko en del ved at lade autostolen have kontakt til forsædet, men ikke udelukke den. Det er vigtigt at tjekke billisten til den model man ønsker da ikke alle producenter godkender autostole til disse biler eller disse pladser i bilerne.

I dag afprøvede vi modeller som må anvendes i bilen på de yderste pladser mod at gulvrummene fyldes ud med stødabsorberende materiale så som styrodur – isoleringsmateriale som nemt kan skaffes billigt i byghandler. Eller VWs egen løsning.

Britax Dualfix

Britax Max-fix ll

Duologic 2 (Klippan Kiss 2)

Klippan Triofix Recline

Fair G 0/1

Monteringen var rigtig nem med alle stolene, da isofixsystemet I bilen sidder langt fremme.

Støttebenet kunne nå ned til gulvet  opbevaringsrummet når stolen blev monteret oprejst og med afstandskile for bedre benplads til større børn. Men der var for lidt plads til far foran.

Uden afstandskile og stolen skubbet helt ind til ryglænet på bilsædet med Triofix i hvileposition kunne støttebenet lige akurat være på kanten til opbevaringsrummet. Dette skal man dog ikke satse på. Så udfyldning af rummet er både nemmere og mere sikkert. Pladsen til far foran var den samme.

Drengen kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i stolen.

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English

This family of 4 needed a new and bigger seat for the youngest and 10 kg member. They wanted an isofix seat that could be used behind the driver´s seat fully reclined with enough room in front for both parents:

Father: 190 cm

Mother: 160 cm

There was no need to estimate the recline of the seats because the backseats in the VW Touran are very level.

One thing to look out for with cars like the VW Touran is the underfloor storage rooms between the two outer backseats and both front seats. The supportleg can easierly penetrate the lids in a crash rendering the seats unstable resulting in higher loads on the child. It is important to check the car list that comes with the car seat you want as some manufactorers don´t approve their seats for the car at all or just not approve them for use in the outer backseat positions. Many do however have solutions for this issue.

Today we tested seats that have been approved for use in these seating positions provided that the rooms would be filled with shock absorbent material such as Styrodur or VW´s own solution.

Britax Dualfix

Britax Max-Fix ll

Duologic 2 (klippan Kiss 2)

Klippan Triofix Reclien

Fair G 0/1

 

The installtion of these seats was very easy because the isofix system in the car was far forwards.

Saab 9-3

Familien skulle bruge to autostole til deres tvillinger. De havde to biler: En VW Passat st fra 2001 og en Saab 9-3. Saaben var med til afprøvningen, da det var den bil de brugte mest. Det var uvidst om Passaten havde isofix, men VW var iblandt de allerførste til at montere systemet i deres biler daterende tilbage til slutningen af 1990erne, men UDEN at markere det. Saaben derimod havde markeringerne på sæderne.

Ud over isofixsystemet havde Saaben også såkaldte Eyelets/Tether loops fabriksmonteret på forsæde skinnerne. Disse er specifikt til montering af forankringsseler til de selemonterede bagudvendte autostole.

Isofix-systemet i Saab sad meget dybt. For at lette monteringen af isofix stole kan det være nødvendigt at bruge kapslerne der følger med stolene ved køb til at blotte dem og lette adgangen til dem.

Pigerne kunne sidde selv og vejede 10 kg.

Stolene blev afprøvet bag førersædet, da der er mindst plads til den voksne foran her end bag passagersædet.

Stolen blev først afprøvet I hvilestilling hvor den krævede for meget plads. Men tvillingerne sov sjældent i bilen og bilsædernes hældning var god så den var ikke så vigitg. I oprejst position var der rigelig plads foran. Den var nem at montere.

Tvillingerne kunne lige akurat spændes forsvarligt fast i den.

 

English

This family needed two seats for their twins. They had two cars: One VW Passat estate 2001 and a Saab 9-3 . estate. The Saab was brought along for the test fitting because this is the car that they use the most. It was unknown wether or not the Passat had  isofix. But VW was among the first to install the system into their cars in the late 1990s. They would not mark the seats with isofix labels back then. The Saab on the other hand had the labels in place.

Besides the isofix points on the two outer rearseats, the Saab was also equipted with so-called eyelets – also referred to as tether loops preinstalled on the front seat runners. These are for installing  belted rearfacing car seats´ tether straps.

The isofix system was potioned very deep in this car. So in order to make the installation of isofix seats easier, the plastic caps that come with the seats were attached to the isofix system in the car in order to expose them.

The girls were able to sit unassisted and weighed 10 kg.

The seats were tested behind the driver´s seat as there is less room fornt to back here than behind the front passenger seat.

The seat was installed in the reclined position at first, but it needed much too much space then. Since the twins would not sleep in the car and the inclination of the backseats was fine, this would not be an issue. There was plenty of space in front when the seat was upright. It was easy to install

The twins could be safely secured in the seat but it was a close call.

Ford Focus st 2001

Familien havde to biler som stolen skulle skifte imellem. Vigtigst var dog hældningen på stolen. Den anden bil var en Skoda Superb, som er noget mere rummelig end Ford Focus.

Mor målte 165 cm og var den eneste som kørte i Focusen. Dermed var pladsbehovet i bilen ikke en så vigtig faktor. I Skoda Superb ville hun sidde på passagersædet.

Sønnen var 11 måneder gammel.

Stolene blev afprøvet bag førersædet.

Triofix blev monteret forsvarligt med sikkerhedsselen. Den blev monteret i hvilestilling uden distanceklods (Foto 6-11) og i i oprejst stilling med distanceklodsen(Foto 2-5). Oprejst var der problemer med at få stolen til at klikke fast på basen. Sikkerhedsselen var i vejen for det. Det lykkedes dog.

Triofix kunne lige gå an pladsmæssigt set bag førersædet. Sønnen kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i den. Hældningen var ok men ikke henrivende.

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English

This family owned two cars, and they needed a seat that would fit both cars. The most important thing was the recline angle. The other car was a Skoda Superb which is somewhat more roomey than the Focus.

Mother measured 165 cm in height. The father was somewhat taller, but space requirements would not be a factor as the mother was the only one driving the Focus and the father was the only one driving the Superb. The mother would allways sit in the passenger seat in the Superb.

The son was 11 months old

The seats were tested behind driver.

The Triofix was mounted safely with the seatbelt in both upright position with the wedge as well as in recline mode. There were some issues making the seat itself hook on to the base unit when installed in the upright mode. The seatbelt somehow got in the way. It culd be done though.

The Triofix left just about space enough and the son could be safely secured in it. The recline was good but not tremendous.

Honda Jazz

Der skulle to nye autostole til tvillingerne på 2 år og 12-13 kg. De sad stadig i deres babystole, men de skulle skifte nu da de for det første var ved at nå vægtgrænsen og for det andet var for lange i og med at toppen af hovedet nåede stolens øverste kant. (gælder kun babystolene). Tvillingerne havde deres flyverdragter på grundet det kolde vejr. Så det var ikke muligt at prøve at spænde dem fast i stolene som blev afprøvet. En gennemgang af fastspændning af barn i autostol med 5 punktssele. Gennemgangen indbefattede diverse sikkerhedsrisici ved brugen af stort overtøj i autostole generelt. Det er nemlig sådan at det forringer sikkerheden i stolen væsenligt – på flere punkter (se indlæg    )dog værre endnu med fremadvendte autostole. Korrekt selehøjde blev også gennemgået samt hvor fast selen skal spændes på barnet. Vi gennemgik også hvornår de større stole er udvokset (spidsen af ørerne når stolens øverste kant eller skuldre rammer hovedstøtten). Stolens position i bilen: Oprejst eller liggende når barnet bliver stort.

Far var 186 cm høj. Mor godt 165 cm. Mor og far skiftedes til at køre bilen. Stolene blev afprøvet bag førersædet da der her er mindst plads foran.

I hvileposition: Stolen var ligetil at montere I bilen. Der var fin plads til faderen foran. Hældningen var fin. Da sæderne i bilen er flade. (Foto 5-6)

Oprejst med distanceklods: nem at montere. Pladsen foran kunne lige akurat gå an for faderen. Hældningen var fin for ældre  børn.(foto 7-9)

Oprejst uden distanceklods: Nem at montere og god plads foran. Hældning ok.(Foto 2-4)

Sikkerhedsselemontering:  var nem. Ingen problemer med selespænderne.

Valget faldt på denne stol.

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English

A pair of 2 –year-old 12-13 kg twins needed bigger seats. They were still in their baby carriers bu needed to change now, as they were nearing the weight limit and the top of their heads were at the top of the seats (rule for baby carriers only). The twins were wearing their snow suits due to cold weather. It was therefore not possible to fasten them into the seats that were tried in the car. Lessons in correct clothing in car seats was done as thick clothing reduces the harness ability to restrain and thereby the seats ability to protect the child in it significantly – this is particulary bad for forward facing seats of all types. (read entry  ). Correct harness position and correct tension of the harness was informed on. When the bigger cars eats would be outgrown by height was also touched (tip of ears reach top of seat or shoulders hit the head support). The seat´s position in the car – upright vs. reclined for older children was informed on.

Father was 186 cm tall. Mother app 165 cm tall. Both parents drove the car. The seats were tested behind the driver´s seat as there is less room in front there.

Reclined: The seat was easy to install. There was good room in front for the father. Recline angle was fine as the seats in the car are flat. (photo 5-6).

Upright without the wedge: Easy to install and left good room in front. Recline was decent.(photo 2-4).

Upright with wedge: Easy to install. Room in front was just about acceptable for the father. Recline angle for fine for bigger children.(Photo 7-9).

Installation with the seatbelt: Was easy. No trouble with the length of the buckle stalk.

They chose this car seat.

 

Opel Vectra 2007/Vauxhall Vectra

Isofix eftermonteret – sad dybt inde. Pige 11 måneder og 9 kg. Forældre  var ca 165-175 cm høje. Pigen havde stadig god plads i babystolen. Afprøvning bag førersædet. 

Nem montering af stolen eftersom  isofixarmene kan trækkes langt ud fra basen. Hældning var fin.

Pladsbehov var for stort i hvilepositionen. Der er brug for hvilepositionen i stolen da datteren sover meget i bilen. (Billeder 2- 7)

Den blev monteret oprejst hvor pladsbehovet var fint nok. Tilsidst blev den monteret i hvilestilling bag passgersædet og her var pladsen foran lige ok.

Datteren passede lige nøjagtig ned i stolen. Men det var kun lige.

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English

Isofix system was placed very deeply. The daughter was 11 months old and weighed 9 kg. The parents were app 165-170 cm tall. The daughter still had good room left to grow in her infant carrier. Test installation behind the driver.

The installation was easy as the isofix arms on the base come far out. Recline angle was ok.

Space requirements in the reclined position were too much. The daughter needs a seat with recline positions as she sleeps a lot while driving in the car..(See photos 2-7 )

The seat was then installed upright behind the driver´s seat as well. Space in front was ok then. It was also installed in the reclined position behind the passenger seat leaving just enough space in front.

The daughter could be safely strapped in. But it was a close call being too big still.

Renault Grand Scenic
[warning]OBS Særlige forholdsregler pga. rum i gulvet bag forsæderne! Klippan har idag d. 10/2.2014 godkendt stolen til isofix-montering i denne bil[/warning]

Denne familie skulle bruge en ny autostol til deres datter på 10 måneder og ca 78 cm lang. Hun kunne sidde selv. Ønsket var en isofix stol grundet den nemmere montering. Begge forældre var omkring 180 cm høje – faderen måske lidt mere.

Grand Scenic er en dejlig rummelig familiebil. Den har tre fulde sæder bagi, med mulighed for at rykke disse frem og tilbage. Bilen har isofix på alle tre bagsæder. Isofixet i bilen er rigtig nemt at komme til. Det er inde i selve sædehynden lige i revenen mellem ryglæn og sæde. Dermed er isofixet sat højt oppe og således er der ingen problemer med hældningen i bilen.

Bilen har dog et problem, som er de rum der findes i gulvet mellem de yderste bagsæder og forsæderne. Disse er godt gemt af vejen under en lang gulvmåtte og et låg. Det er nødvendigt at fylde disse rum ud – gerne med det som autostolsproducenten selv anbefaler med mindre at støttebenet kan nå helt ned til stålbunden. Se endvidere indlægget om Gulvrum. Støttebenene på nogle isofix autostole vil helt misse disse rum hvorfor disse forholdsregler ikke er nødvendige for dem. Støtteben kan gå igennem lågene i en kollision, med mindre rummene fyldes ud eller benet kan nå bilens stålbund. Der ud over er det her vigtigt at autostolen får støtte af forsædet for at lindre trykket på bilens bund.

Ganske som forventet ingen problemer med monteringen. Støttebenet stod lige på kanten til gulvrummet hvorved fyldning af det ville have været nødvendigt (se foto 3). Klippan anbefaler fyldning med Krydsfinér og styrodur. Men så rykkede vi bagsædet tilbage, hvorved støttebenet helt missede gulvrummet og fyldning af det ikke længere var nødvendigt (se foto  4).

Stolen blev monteret i hvilestilling hvor den både tager mest plads samt giver den bedste stilling for den lille pige.

Grundet hvilestillingen kunne pigen spændes forsvarligt fast i stolen. Hvis stolen havde været rejst op, ville hun være sunket ned i den og den dermed ville have været for stor endnu. Hun sad godt i den.

Fremadvendt ville den også have været fin.

Pladsbehovet var glimrenede for forældrene.

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English 

[warning]ATTENTION! Special Precautions due to underfloor storage rooms! Klippan has approved the isofix installation in this car today 10th of Februrary 2014.[/warning]

This family were looking for the next car seat for their 10 month-old and app 78 cm tall daughter. She was able to sit unassisted. They wanted isofix due to the easy installation. Both parents were app 180 cm tall – the father perhaps a bit taller.

The Grand Scenic is a lovely roomy family car. It has three full seats in the back that can be rolled forwards and backwards. This car has isofix in all three backseats that is very easy to get to as it is positioned in the seat cushion in the gap between the seat and the backrest resulting in a good position of all rearfacing car seats.

The car does have one issue tough, which is the underfloor storage compartments that you´ll find well-hidden under a big floor mat as well as a lid and right between the outer backseats and the front seats. It is necessary to fill these compartments in order to spread crashloads evenly across the room and the lid – preferably with materials that are approved for this by the car seat manufacturer. Filling is necessary in cases where the footprop cannot reach the solid steel bottom of the car OR completely misses the room. Otherwise the footprops can penetrate the lid leaving the seat unstable especially in cases where it is not supported by the front seat. Having contact with the front seat has several safety advantages. Reducing the loads on the steel bottom, compartment lids etc of the car is one of them. See the entry Underfloor storage compartments.

As ussual absolutely no issuses with the installation. The footprop was right onn the edge of the storage compartment, and filling it would have been necessary in this case (see photo 3). Klippan has a few solutions for this: Plywood and styrodur. We  just moved the seat backwards and the footprop completely missed the the compartment as a result of this move. Filling it was nolonger necessary (see photo 4).

The car seat was mounted in recline position, where it needs most space and gives the little girl the most comfortable position in the seat as well.

It was possible to fasten her safely largely due to the recline position. She would have “slumped” in the seat if we had left it in the upright position placing the harness too high up.  She sat comfortably in it.

The seat was fine forward facing as well.

Space requirements were great for both parents.

 

Kia Picanto 2012
[important]Triofix er ikke godkendt til denne bil[/important]
[important]Triofix is not approved for this car[/important]

Freja på 1 år, 74 cm og 10 kg skulle have en autostol til farmors bil. Det skulle være en med isofix, som var nem at tage ind og ud af bilen samt nem at bære på – gerne en som kunne anvendes helt frem til at Freja ikke længere skulle bruge sikkerhedsudstyr i bilen. Freja var ikke med. Men det gør ikke noget når det er vinter, vådt og bidende koldt. Frejas autostol i forældrenes bil var (er) en Besafe bagudvendt stol. De lod til at havde nogle planer om at købe en Ford C-Max.

Triofix var den stol som bedst passede til kriterierne. Den passede på alle punkter. Hagen ved den var at den IKKE er godkendt til Kia Picanto. Den blev alligevel afprøvet i bilen. En blev monteret både bagudvendt med isofix, med sikkerhedsselen, og fremadvendt på basen og uden basen. Ligeledes blev den afprøvet i oprejst og hvilestilling bagudvendt. Afprøvningen skete bag passagersædet.

Monteringen af basen og stolen var vanen tro rigtig nem på alle måderne. Hvilestillingen som er ret god i Picanto bød dog på et meget stort pladsbehov for stolen. Forsædet måtte hele vejen frem (foto 10-14). I oprejst stilling var der rigelig med plads – lige nok til 190 cm som ses på billedet (15-17).

Monteringen af stolen på basen fremadvendt (Foto 5-7)er den mulige årsag til at stolen ikke er godkendt til bilen. Afstanden fra stolens ryg til bilsædets ryglæn er meget stort, hvilket kan få betydning i en kollision da barnet vil blive kastet langt frem i bilen 

Monteringen af stolen uden basen som selepude med ryg (Foto 8-9): Denne var der slet ingen problemer med. 

Da Freja kun måler 74 cm er hun formenligt stadig for lille til Triofix. Stolen passer oftest børn fra 80 cm og opefter. Selepositionen samt fastspændning og brugen af overtøj blev gennemgået. At sætte Freja ind i stolen kan foregå ligesom i en stol der kan drejes på basen. Freja kan formenligt også kravle ind og ud selv nu.

Til Ford C-Max er Triofix et godt valg i og med at dens støtteben helt misser gulvrummene i bilen.

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 English

1-year-old Freja, 74 cm tall and 10 kg needed a car seat for grandmother´s car. A seat with isofix, that was easy to install and easy to remove as well as lightweight and handy would be the best choice. They preferred one that she could use until she did not need a car seat anymore. Freja didn´come. However, given the freezing temperatures, everything was wet and all, this was absolutely fine. Freja´s car seat in the parents´ car was (is) a Besafe rearfacing car seat. They seemed to have plans on buying a Ford C-Max.

Triofix was the most obvious choice as it ticked all boxes. The issue with this car seat is that it is not approved for this car. It was tested in all configurations despite this. It was tested behind the passenger seat.

The installation was really easy in all configurations as usual. The recline position in this car is very good. However, the front seat had to be moved all the way forwards when the seat was reclined (photo 7-10). Space in front was wastly improved with the seat in the upright position. There was just about room enough for 190 cm (photo 11)

The forward facing with base configuration is the possibly the reason that the Triofix is not approved for this car. The distance between the back of the seat to the backrest of the car seat was very big (photo 5-7). This could possibly result in poor protection of the child in a frontal collision.

Installation of the seat forward facing as highback booster without the base showed no trouble of this kind (photo 8-9). 

Being 74 cm tall Freja just may still be too short for the seat. The harness starts high up and most children will not fit in before 80 cm app. Harness position as well as securing Freja in the car seat was lectured on. So was clothing in car seats and putting a bigger child into a rearfacing seat, as this can be done just like a seat that rotates. At this point Freja is probably able to climb in and out on her own by now.

This is good choice for the Ford C-Max as its´ support leg completely misses the underfloor storage boxes.

Seat Altea XL

En lille familie på far, mor og 1-årig søn på 11 kg var på udkig efter en autostol i den næste størrelse og havde heldigvis bestemt sig for en bagudvendt. Ud over Seat Altea XL hvade de også en lille VW Lupo fra 2003 uden isofix. Så der var brug for at en autostol som kunne monteres i begge biler. Typisk ville der kun være en voksen i Lupoen ud over sønnen, så pladsbehovet var ikke vigtigt her. Det vigtigste var deres Seat Altea XL, som blev brugt på langture og når begge skulle med. Jeg fik ikke spurgt ind til hvor høje forældrene var, men et skud vil være 170 for mor og 180 for far.

Seat Altea XL er en mellemstørrelse familiebil ala stationcar. Men den er endnu et eksempel på at selv om man har en bil i den størrelse, så betyder det ikke at der automatisk er masser af plads inden i. Denne bil er faktisk ikke så rummelig. Peugeot 308 SW feks. er en bil af samme størrelse men med en helt anden indretning og derved en meget mere rummelig bil – trods at størrelsen er den samme.

Ønskerne til den kommende autostol: At den skulle kunne monteres i begge biler, have hvileposition, havde mulighed for at kunne vendes fremad og gerne en som kunne indstilles til hvileposition i et enkelt snuptag. Og gerne have benplads til barnet.

Det med benpladsen blev vendt, idet børn er meget smidige og kan sidde i nogle stillinger som er behagelige for dem men ikke voksne. Så vi vendte vigtigheden af at lade ham forblive i bagudvendt position til han selv begyndte at sige fra og klage over dårlig komfort. 

Var den 3. og sidste autostol til afprøvning i bilen. Den blev monteret bag passagersædet i med isofix i hvileposition så vel som i oprejst stilling og fremadvendt som bagudvendt. Derefter blev den monteret med bilens sikkerhedssele fremadvendt som bagudvendt. Det som trak ned for denne stol var at den ikke kunne sættes i hvilestilling med et enkelt greb. Den skal indstilles inden stolen sættes på basen. Men man kan så lade stolen være i hvilestillingen ind til barnet ikke længere har brug for at sove i bilen. Ryggen på stolen er meget lang, så dette vil ikke være noget problem på noget tidspunkt.

Monteringen gik fint, bortset fra at der var lidt problemer med at sætte selve sædet fast på basen i fremadvendt position samt ved selemonteringen. Men vi fik den til at klikke på.

Pladsbehovet var ok for begge forældre i hvileposition ala Besafe Izi Kid og forsædet kunne nærmest rykkes helt tilbage i oprejst position.

Sønnen kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i stolen. Han passede nederste seleposition.

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English

This little family of a father, a mother and a 1-year-old 11 kg son were searching for the next stage car seat and had decided on a rearfacing car seat. They had two cars. The other one was a VW Lupo 2003 without isofix. So they needed a car seat that could be safely mounted in both cars. The mother would be the only adult in the Lupo with the son, so space requirements were not important for this car. The Seat Altea XL was the main car that they would use on long road trips and when all had to go. I forgot to ask about their height, but a good shot at it would be 170 cm for the mother (5ft 7”) and 180 cm  (5 ft 11”) for the father.

The Seat Altea XL is a medium-sized family car like a station car. But it is yet another exsample of the fact that a car this size does not automatically mean there is heaps of room inside. This car happens to be quite small inside. The Peugeot 308 SW is similar sized car but with a whole other interior design resulting in much more room inside of it.

Their whishes for the next car seat were: Could be safely mounted in both cars. 1-hand recline. Possibility to turn it forwards as well as good leg space for the child.

The thing about the leg space was touched as children are very smooth and can sit comfortably in positions that look awfully uncomfortable to parents. For this reason the fact that the son should sit rearfacing until he himself expressed discomfort because of it  was touched. 

Was the third and the last car seat to be tried in the car. It was mounted both reward facing in upright as well as reclined position with isofix method and seatbelt method. It was installed forward facing as well in isofix configuration and belted configuration. The drawback for this seat was the fact that the recline positon has to be set before the car seat is clicked onto the base.  However, the seat is so tall that it can be left in the reclined position safely for as long as the children need to nap in the car.  

The installation went smoothly except for it was difficult to make it click onto the base when installed with seatbelt rearfacing, and in both configurations forward facing. But we succeeded.

Space requirements were ok for both parents in recline position like Besafe izi kid and the front seat could be pushed almost all the way back when it was upright.

The son could be safely strapped in, with the harness in the lowest setting. 

Opel Astra 2004/Vauxhall

Familien skulle bruge en autostol til deres søn på ca 9 måneder. De hældte mest til isofix. Her slog vi to fluer med et smæk ved at montere bag førersædet. Er der plads der er der også plads bag passagersædet.

Monteringen af denne stol var pærelet. Den blev monteret både i oprejst stilling og i hvilestilling.

Pladsbehovet var helt fint for begge forældre. Faderen var ca 180 cm høj.

Hældningen var fin i begge konfigurationer. Sønnen kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i stolen.

Opel Astra 1Opel Astra triofix recline 2Opel Astra triofix recline 3Opel Astra triofix recline 4Opel Astra triofix recline hvileposition 5

English

This family needed a seat for their app 9 month old son. They preferred isofix. We killed two birds with one stone by installing seats behind the driver´s seat. If there is enough legroom in the driver´s seat, then there will be enough room behind the passenger seat too.

Installing this car seat was a piece of cake. T was mounted upright as well as in recline position.

Space requrements was fine for both. The father was app 180 cm tall (5ft 11”).

Recline angle was good in both configurations and their son could be safely strapped in.

Renault Clio st 2013

Familien havde allerede en Britax Hiway 2 til deres datter, men ønskede en autostol som var nemmere at montere i bilen og ikke skulle spændes efter. Så de var på udkig efter en bagudvendt med isofix, og havde Graco Duologic 2/klippan Kiss 2 som førstevalg. Datteren var 1 år gammel. Mor målte ca 170 cm og far var lidt højere. Stolene blev sat bag passagersædet.

Den første stol som skulle i bilen var førstevalget Duologic 2. men denne stol tog for meget plads i bilen. Forsædet blev ubrugeligt. Den stod eller godt i bilen.

Næste stol blev Britax Dualfix som er mere kompakt. Men denne fyldte lige en tand for meget men stadig noget mindre end Duologic 2. Forsædet var stadig ubrugeligt for os alle.

Dernæst blev Klippan Triofix Recline sat ind i bilen i oprejst stilling, da det var mørkt og det var svært at se hvor man skulle ramme med bøjlen der giver stolen hvilestilling. Det var der heller ikke noget problem i eftersom sæderne i Clioen er flade og Triofix er en meget kompakt stol. Der var godt med plads til forældrene foran og benpladsen var noget bedre end deres nuværende autostol: Britax Hiway som de måtte montere helt ind til ryglænet for selv at få plads nok foran. Benpladsen var også noget bedre for datteren og hun kunne lide at sidde i den. Hun kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i den.

Til sidst blev Fair G/Bimbofix sat ind i bilen. Den bød på mere plads til dem foran og storts et den samme benplads til datteren som Triofix. Der ud over kan den indstilles i hvilestilling med et enkelt håndgreb. Den sad højt i bilen som den typisk gør. Men det var nemt at sætte datteren ind i den og hun kunne lide at sidde der. Hun kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i den.

Renault Clio st 2013Renault Clio st 2013 Triofix 1Renault Clio st 2013 Triofix 2Renault Clio st 2013 Triofix 3

 

English

This family already had a rearfacing car seat for their 1 year-old daughter. However they wanted replace with an isofix rearfacing car seat. They preferred one that did not have one that needed tightening of the seatbelt. So isofix it was. First choice was the Akta Graco Duologic 2/Klippan KISS 2. Mother was 170 cm and the father was a bit taller.

First seat to be installed was the Duologic 2/klippan Kiss. While it was easy to install it and the installation was good and firm, the seat took up far too much space front to back. Front seat was unusable to all of us.

Next up was the Britax Dualfix which is more compact. But this one took too much space as well – tough a little less than the Duologic 2. The front seat was still unusable for all of us.  Installation was nice and easy.

Then came the Klippan Triofix Recline in upright position, as it was dark and difficult to see exactly where the reclinebar had to go on the base. This is no problem really, because the backseats in this car are flat and the seat itself is very compact. It offered very good space in front for all, an the daughter had decent legroom as well, and she felt comfortable in it. She could be safely secured in it.

Last seat to go in was the Fair G /Bimbofix. This one offered a bit more legroom for the adults in front and decent legroom for the daughter too. Recline position can be adjusted while driving. The seat sat high up in the car as usual. She could be easierly and safely secured in it, and she liked the seat.

Klippan Triofix:
VW Golf 2006
Forældrene var på udkig efter den næste størrelse autostol til deres 13 måneder gamle, 10 kg og 80 cm lange datter. Far er 182 cm og mor er 172 cm. De skiftes til at køre bilen. Autostolene er derfor kun blevet afprøvet bag førersædet. De kører mest korte ture i bilen. Planen er at udskifte VW Golfen ud med en Skoda Octavia St. inden ret længe. Heldigvis har Skoda Octavia St. været i mine hænder ved et kundebesøg i Odense ikke ret lang tid siden. Trods sine 80 cm havde datteren stadig god plads i sin Römer Babysafe SHR. Nem montering som vanlig. Stolen blev afprøvet med den afstand der ville have været til bagsædets ryglæn med Klippan Triofix kilen i brug. Denne kile sættes mellem frontbøjlen og bagsædets ryglæn for at øge benpladsen for barnet. Komforten foran for begge forældre var slet ikke noget problem. Pladsbehovet var lidt mindre end Max-Fix,således at forsædet kunne rykkes lidt længere tilbage. Udsynet gennem bagruden blev testet og der var ingen problemer, hvilket der typisk ikke er for bagudvendte autostole. Datteren havde masser af plads at vokse på i den. Benpladsen for datteren i Triofix var bedre end Max-Fix pga. Den øgede afstand til ryglænet i bilen. Men børn er meget fleksible og kan sidde i stillinger vi voksne for længst har glemt. Dette være sig bla. Skrædderstilling. Langt de fleste børn sidder og ligger fortrineligt med benene bøjede. Datteren kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i stolen.
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English
 These parents were looking for the next size up in car seat for their 13 month-old, 10 kg and 80 cm long daughter. The father is 182 cm tall and the mother is 172 cm tall. Both drive the car. The journeys in the car are mostly very short. The car seats have been test fitted behind the driver´s seat for this reason. They are planning on selling the Golf and buy a Skoda Octavia estate soon. Luckily I have seen the Octavia estate at a very recent test fitting visit in Odense. Despite her 80 cm this little girl still had good room to grow in her Britax/Römer babysafe SHR. The installation was easy and fast as usual. The recline was ok but not as good as with the other seats. The Triofix was test-fitted with the distance to the backseat backrest required to put the Triofix vedge in between the front brace and the backrest in the car to add extra legroom for the growing child. Comfort in front was no problem at all. Space requirements were a little less than the Max-Fix. So the front seat could be pushed further back on the runners. Visiablity through the backscreen in  the car was testet too, and there was no problems with this at all. Good visiability is not a problem in rearfacing car seats. The daughter had lots of room to grow in the Max-Fix. Legroom for the daughter was great and better than the Max-Fix due to the added distance between the backrest in the car and the front brace on the seat. However, children are VERY flexiable and have no trouble sitting in positions that grown-ups have forgotten about a long Time ago. Children sit comfortably with their legs criss-crossed most of the time. The daughter could be safely fastend with the 5-point harness. 
Citroén C5
Familien havde 1 datter på 13 måneder og 10 kg. De havde i forvejen aflagt et ikke særlig succesfuldt besøg i en butik for at få afprøvet Besafe Izi Combi X3, som butikken havde. Besafe Izi Combi X3 isofix blev stillet ind på bagsædet i bilen uden at blive monteret og forankringsselerne til versionen uden isofix kunne ikke monteres uden at fjerne forsædet helt. Så de kontaktede mig. Mor var 174 cm høj og far 190 cm høj. De ventede barn nr. 2. De tøvede lidt med isofix monterede stole fordi bagsæderne i bilen hældte meget. De viste sig dog at isofix-systemet var placeret højt oppe og derved udlignede den store hældning på bagsæderne. Klippan Triofix blev afprøvet med isofix og sikkerhedsselen. Begge monteringer var nemme og hurtige. Det var dog nødvendigt at anskaffe den kile som kan sættes mellem ryglænet og frontbøjlen på stolen da bilsædet ellers ville være for dybt og resultere i at stolen ikke kan monteres forsvarligt i bilen. Der ville være afstand med adskellige cm mellem ryglænet og frontbøjlen. Pladsbehovet var godt for begge forældre. Den lille pige kunne spændes forsvarligt fast i stolen.
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English
This family had 1 13 month old 10 kg daughter. They had paid a rather unsuccesfull visit to a shop with the Besafe Izi Combi X3 in stock. The Besafe Izi Combi X3 isofix seat was put into the backseat of the car without being installed and tether straps for the non-isofix version could not be installed without removing the front seat from the car. So they contacted me. Mother was 174 cm tall and the father was 190 cm tall. They were expecting again. They were hesitant to get isofix because of the slope in the backseats, which was quite significant. However, the high position of the isofix points in the car level the isofix mounted seats, so they do get a decent recline. The Klippan Triofx was tested with both isofix as well as the seatbelt. Both configurations were easy and fast. However, the vedge to close gaps between the seatback in the car and the front brace on the Triofix was essential. The depth of the backseat in the car resulted in a gap between the front brace and the backrest. The seat cannot be safely installed in this car without the vedge that is designed for this seat. Space requirements were good for Both Parents. The little girl could be safely strapped in
Skoda Octavia
Familien havde tvillinger og skulle bruge to autostole. En autostol i hver side af bilen. Tvillingerne var meget forskellige af størrelse. Den ene vejede 8 kg var lang og spinkel. Den anden vejede 10 kg og var noget mere robust.  Særligt den lille tvilling havde brug for en autostol med hvilefunktion. Forældrene var ca 170-175 cm høje. Vi valgte derfor at montere stolene bag førersædet først og fremmest. Klippan Triofix har ingen hvilefunktion,men blev afprøvet alligevel, for at se hvordan tvillingerne sad i den. Stolen blev monteret med isofix. Vi monterede den bag passagersædet og bag føreren havde vi så Britax Max-Fix for at sammenligne hvilestillingen og afprøve tvillingerne i dem  begge.(se sammenligningsfotos nedenfor) Max-Fix havde ikke uventet den beste hvileposition. Den store tvilling kunne godt have brugt Klippan, men kun én løsning blev valgt for nemhedens skyld: Britax Max-Fix. Pladsmæssigt set udgjorde Triofix som Fair G og max-Fix ingen udfordring. Støttebenet på Triofix, sidder altid helt ind til bilens sæde. Octavia var ingen undtagelse. Det kunne lige lade sig gøre.
 Skoda Octavia st 1Skoda Octavia st Klippan Triofix 1Skoda Octavia st Klippan Triofix og Maxfix 1
English
This family needed seats for their twins. One car seat on each side of the car. The twins were very different in stature. One weighed 8 kg long and lean. The other twin was 10 kg and somewhat more robust. A car seat with recline function was needed for both of them – particulary the smaller twin. The parents were about 170-175 cm tall. The Klippan Triofix has no recline position, but we tried it in the car anyway to see how it compared with the other seats and if the recline would be good enough anyway. (see comparison photos below) The Max-Fix had the best recline – not unexpected tough. The bigger twin could have used the Klippan, but only one seat was chosen to make life a little easier: The Britax Max-Fix Space requirements did not represent a challenge – just like the Max-Fix. It was more compact tough. The supportleg on the Triofix allways sits flush with the seat it is installed on. The Octavia made no exception to that. Installing the supportleg was just about possible.
Opel/Vauxhall Zafira 2008
Denne familie skulle have tre autostole på tværs på bagsædet. Førstevalget var Klippan Triofix primært pga den lange anvendningstid. Triofix blev monteret bag passagersædet. På midtersædet forsøgte vi at installere både Besafe Izi Up X3 (billed 4-6) og Kiddy Guardian (billed 1-3). Men det gik ikke an med Triofix til at få 3 ind på bagsædet. Triofix monteres helt ind til bagsædets ryglæn hvilket gav problemer med at få hænderne ned imellem stolene og fastgøre barnet ved siden af. der ud over var det ikke muligt at få Kiddy og Besafe ind ved siden af hinanden. 
Løsningen for netop denne familie med 3 børn: se Britax Hiway 2
Opel Zafira 2008Opel Zafira 2008 Triofix bag passagersædet 1Opel Zafira 2008 Triofix bag passagersædet Kiddy ved siden af 1Opel Zafira 2008 Triofix bag passagersædet Besafe Izi Up ved siden af 1Opel Zafira 2008 Triofix bag passagersædet Besafe Izi Up ved siden af 2Opel Zafira 2008 Triofix bag passagersædet Besafe Izi Up ved siden af 3
English
This family needed three seats across the backseat. First choice was the Klippan Triofix primarily due to the longlivity of the seat. The Triofix was installed beghind the passenger seat. We tried to install both the Besafe izi Up (Photos 4-6) and the Kiddy Guardian (photos 1-3) in the centre rear seat. But all attempts to get a three across combination using the Klippa Triofix failed. The reason was that the Triofix must be installed right up to the seatback leaving no space to get hands down to belt up the older child right next to it. Furthermore there was not room enough to get the Besafe izi Up X3 and the Kiddy Guardian in with it right next to each other.
 
To find the right solution for this family with three children: see Britax Hiway 2
Alfa Romeo 156 Sedan 2004
Triofix blev monteret bag førersædet i bilens isofix-beslag. Der var plads nok til en person på ca 190 cm foran den. Triofix blev forsøgt monteret med sikkerhedsselen både foran og bagi. Monteringen af basen er problemfri, men det var svært at få selve sædet til at klikke fast på basen.
Alfa Romeo 156Alfa Romeo 156 Triofix 1Alfa Romeo 156 Triofix 2Alfa Romeo 156 Triofix 3
English
The Triofix was installed behind driver with the isofix system. There was room enough for an app. 190 cm tall person in front of it. The seat was tested with seatbelt installation behind the passenger seat and in the front passenger seat. The installation of the base was very straight forward and it fits really well. However, there were trouble making the seat itself click onto the base.
Volvo V60
Triofix blev monteret bag førersædet med isofix systemet uden problemer. Pladsbehovet var meget begrænset, hvilket er typisk for denne autostol. der var plads nok til en ca. 190 cm høj person foran den.
Volvo V60
English
The Triofix was installed with isofix behind driver without issues. Space requirements were very limited as usual with this seat, and so there was room enough for an app 190 cm tall adult person in front of it.
Skoda Fabia Combi
Autostolen er her monteret med isofix bag passagersædet. Der var rigelig plads foran. Det gik ikke an at montere Triofix med sikkerhedsselen fordi selespænderne i Fabia var for lange. Måske om det ville hjælpe at sætte Triofix spacer som lige er kommet på markedet kunne afhjælpe dette. Triofix var for stor til den ca 8 måneder gamle pige. Selen i stolen startede for langt oppe.
Skoda Fabia Combi 1Skoda Fabi Combi Triofix 1Skoda Fabia Combi Fair G  2
English
The carseat is installed behind the passenger seat here. There was plenty of legroom in front. he seat could not be installed with the seatbelt due to long buckle stalks in the Skoda Fabia Combi.However the Triofix Spacer that is available as an accessory for the seat may solve this problem. The Triofix was too big for the app. 8 month old girl. The harness started too far up.
Mitsubishi Colt 3-dørs/3-door
Klippan Triofix støtteben forhindrede at bagsæderne kunne skubbes bagud således at de høje voksne kunne få komfort nok foran. Ellers rigtig nem at montere i bilen.
Mitsubisi Colt Besafe Isofix  1Mitsubisi Colt Triofix  1Mitsubisi Colt Triofix  2
English
The Triofix support leg made rolling the backseat row back on its´ runners impossible. there was not quite enough comfort in front for the tall adults. otherwise a good choice as it is very easy to install in this car.
Kia Ceed SW:
Monteret bag førersædet. Ok benplads for en lang person. Stolen går ikke på midtersædet bagi, da støttebenet er for langt og løfter basen af sædet, således at stolen bliver ustabil. Hvileposition er ok
Kia Ceed SW 2 Klippan 1Kia Ceed SW 2 Klippan og Multitech 1Kia Ceed SW 2 Klippan og Multitech 2
English
The seat is installed behind the driver. Sufficient room for a tall driver. The seat cannot be installed safely in the centre seat because the supprtleg is too long and lifts the base off the seat making the car seat unstable. Recline is ok.
VW Bora 1999
Et rigtig godt valg til VW Bora bag begge forsæder. Den leverer rigelig med plads foran til 180+ cm. Stolen kan monteres med isofix og med sikkerhedsselen i bilen.
English
The seat is a really nice choice for the VW Bora behind both front seats. It leaves plenty of space for the front seat passengers for 180+ cm tall people. the seat can be installed with isofix and with the seatbelt.
Audi A6:
Stolen er meget kompakt og leverer god plads foran til 180 cm+. Montering med sikkerhedssele er sikker, hurtig og nem.
English
The seat is very compact and leaves good legroom in front for 180 cm+. Seatbelt mounting is safe, fast and easy.
Seat Leon
Stolen er meget kompakt og leverer god plads foran til 180 cm+. Montering med sikkerhedssele er sikker, hurtig og nem.
 
English
The seat is very compact and leaves good legroom in front for 180 cm+. Seatbelt mounting is safe, fast and easy.
Hyundai I30 2008
Peugeot 107
Chevrolet Lacitte 2006
Peugeot 308SW 2011
Chevrolet Orlando 2012
Peugeot 307SW

Peugeot 206

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3 kommentarer

  1. Pernille Blichfeldt

    Hej Lena.

    Jeg har skrevet før på nogle af dine andre stole. Nu har jeg lige fået øjnene op for denne. Er der mulighed for at have en selepude med ryg stående imellem to triofix stole (i en Zafira fra 2008, der er ikke et helt sæde i midten)? Kan man komme til at lukke selen?

    Jeg kunne rigtig godt tænke mig at få dig på besøg med nogle stole, så jeg kan få prøvet det af, vi kører på sidste vers i babystolen og vores pige på 3, skal have en stol med lidt mere fremtid i, end til 18 kg.

    1. Lena Larsen

      Nåh ja, mente problemer med Triofix-selepude kombination.

  2. Lena Larsen

    Hej Pernille

    Du skal regne med at få problemer med at spænde et barn fast i selepuden.

    3-på-tværs er lidt mere tricky, så afprøving er påkrævet. Jeg kommer gerne ud. Men det er billigere for jer at komme til Næstved.

    Det koster 625 kr for 3-på-tværs i eget hjem og 250 kr hos mig i Næstved

    Du kan læse lidt mere om det her
    http://www.sikkerautostol.dk/kontakt/

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